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own age myname · Oct 04, 2009, 12:18 PM // 12:18

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Originally Posted by Adriaanz#Shiro

While it is true that the maps are mostly Saltspray, Grenz and Ancestral, I highly disagree with the 'luxons being superior'.

The last 3 weeks, I've played every morning, and getting like 12 victories straight, and maybe 1 loss. In the kurzick outposts, there are alot of groups waiting, and when I ask a friend to check out the luxon outpost, it is almost empty. (this is around 12 A.M. GMT+1 until 4 P.M. GMT+1).

This is true, but Luxon's still win enough to keep it in Kurzick territory. I know I only play AB with guild groups (luxon).

AggroHappy · Oct 04, 2009, 04:14 PM // 16:14

I am one of those "not so hot" Kurz players (PvE Ranger on your team in AB? I recommend resigning), and I'm fine with Ancestral. Fun map.

I've never seen any other map than Grenz.

Ambitious · Oct 04, 2009, 05:08 PM // 17:08

It's already been stated, I think. JQ and FA are easy wins for the Kurzick (because of a multitude of reasons, including leeching on the Luxon side, small advantages in favor of the Kurzicks, and the fact that there are just a lot more Kurzick then there are Luxon)

It's just a big toilet. The number of players on either alliance will never change, and there's nothing the devs can do about that (the problem relates to personal taste, if that helps). A host of problems stems from it, including our AB problem and the alternative JQ/FA easy win situation.

cebalrai · Oct 04, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriaanz#Shiro

While it is true that the maps are mostly Saltspray, Grenz and Ancestral, I highly disagree with the 'luxons being superior'.

The last 3 weeks, I've played every morning, and getting like 12 victories straight, and maybe 1 loss. In the kurzick outposts, there are alot of groups waiting, and when I ask a friend to check out the luxon outpost, it is almost empty. (this is around 12 A.M. GMT+1 until 4 P.M. GMT+1).

Dude, it's all Grenz and Ancestral. Saltspray is just a myth now.

Thenameless Wonder · Oct 04, 2009, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by YunSooJin

Its cause Kurzicks suck at AB.. we even have a thread on this in the corresponding PvP AB Forum.

Hmmm....it seems that whenever I've played on the Kurzick side in AB matches we won and on Luxon side, lost...

moriz · Oct 04, 2009, 11:27 PM // 23:27

every match? stop lying.

Smarty · Oct 05, 2009, 08:35 AM // 08:35

Grrr post eaten by my daily 9.30am disconnection (screw you BT! /shakefist). I think what I said was... I had an 18-hour day ABing as a kurzick on Friday and didn't lose more than a handful of matches, but still the map only switched back and forth between Ancestral and Grenz. I can't believe that my personal win-loss ratio is *that* far out from everyone else's so I've no idea what's up with the map rotation.

Bob Slydell · Oct 05, 2009, 08:41 AM // 08:41

I think AB will be the next form of PvP due for a revamp if it keeps going this way.

Taurus ChicKa · Oct 05, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

I play on the Luxon side and no matter what we always lose. I must be on at a bad time then if someone is saying Kurzicks suck at AB.

xenosagafreak · Oct 05, 2009, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Taurus ChicKa

I play on the Luxon side and no matter what we always lose. I must be on at a bad time then if someone is saying Kurzicks suck at AB.

The only chance Lux to win nowadays is when their guild groups come out to play, or if Kurz has absolutely braindead allies.

Other than that, it's easy modo.

Try playing at around 8pm PST to around 12am PST.

Show Some Skin · Oct 05, 2009, 08:36 PM // 20:36

I like playing ab with the maps with grass

idk what the names are lol...but everytime i do i get yelled at by people because ab is full of rage and serious business

own age myname · Oct 05, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Show Some Skin

I like playing ab with the maps with grass

idk what the names are lol...but everytime i do i get yelled at by people because ab is full of rage and serious business

Etnaran Keys.

I actually had to look that up, because I haven't been there for so long.

Adriaanz#Shiro · Oct 06, 2009, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by cebalrai

Dude, it's all Grenz and Ancestral. Saltspray is just a myth now.

Nope, it's not ^.^

I also agree with the guy that is a few posts above me, that I myself also can't believe that my personal win-loss ratio is that far away from the total win-losses, especially when you're getting over 40 timer restarts (not exaggarating here!)

God_Hand · Oct 06, 2009, 08:57 PM // 20:57

The reason the line is always in Kurzick territory is because Kurzick monks don't equip Shield Bash or Balanced Stance so they keep dying to WC/PS assassins every 30 seconds. I've seen many a Kurzick group (and one Luxon group, surprisingly) with no healer, which is suicide.

I've played Saltspray I believe a total of three times. The Kurzick side has won once while I was present. I've also played Etnaran once (I almost had a heart attack when I realized we were in Luxon territory), and we lost then.

I've played more matches in Ancestral's or Grenz ALONE than I could count to before I got bored.

I'd say that the Luxons win more because they run better and more synergistic builds than the Kurzicks.

But this is all just mere speculation. The reason the Kurzicks' side sucks so bad is because my guildmates and I are on the Kurzicks' side. There we go, mystery solved.

Alleji · Oct 07, 2009, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Hmph, this thread sounds like the situation got even worse compared to spring (last I played GW and I kept statistics of AB maps for a couple weeks)

I've been saying that AB needed a random rotation practically since release, but anet obviously likes this "territory control" stuff and won't get rid of it.

Arcole · Oct 07, 2009, 03:54 AM // 03:54

I am personally do not care if they change around the map rotations. No matter what the map is, the better team wins, theres really not that big of a bonus to either side.

After being luxon for ~2 years and kurzick for about another year, I feel it is safe to say that the luxons are superior at AB. This is of course relating to pugs - luxon pugs tend to be generally bad but they at least understand how to stay together and cap. Kurzick pugs on the other hand are even worse and tend to mob/split easily; I hate nothing more then being a kurzick pug group leader and having every single person in the group completely ignore me and go join the general mob.

I will say though that the win:loss ratio is much different in guild play. On both sides, if I was running with guildies then my win percentage jumped from 1/4 (kurz)|2/3rds(lux) to the mid 90's. If you can even have a single group on your side who knows what their doing (ab is srs bsns) then you have a much higher chance of winning no matter what side you are.

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 07, 2009, 04:39 AM // 04:39

I miss 2007, when the good Kurzick players still played.

cebalrai · Oct 08, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by Adriaanz#Shiro

Nope, it's not ^.^

I also agree with the guy that is a few posts above me, that I myself also can't believe that my personal win-loss ratio is that far away from the total win-losses, especially when you're getting over 40 timer restarts (not exaggarating here!)

I play AB for 1-3 hours per day, split up in 3-4 sessions at various hours. I have not seen Saltspray in about 6 weeks and even then it was for just 1 hour before going back to grenz then Ancestral.

cebalrai · Oct 08, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Where's Regina on this?

Jensy · Oct 08, 2009, 10:06 PM // 22:06

JQ outputs much, much better faction rewards for the Kurzicks, so those left behind in AB are hardly representative of what it used to look like when there were a bunch of good players on both sides :/